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Showing posts with label atheist. Show all posts
Showing posts with label atheist. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 10, 2012

The world's "religions"

Of interest, there are more non-believers than Hindus in the world. of course, atheist and agnostics and other non-believers are not members of an organized religion.

However, many non-believers admire the  Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM). See http://www.venganza.org/


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Monday, May 7, 2012

Interlude with an Evangelical

Without religion, we'd have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

--Stephen Weinburg

The Major was walking with his wife on an excellent beach in Pinellas county, FL. it was one of those rare times when a couple who has a large active family can slip away for perhaps a half an hour.

The Major is walking on the beech with his quad cane when he is approached by another couple. A man asked if The Major had hurt his knee. The Major's wife said, "No, it was something else.

The man then offered to say a prayer with The Major.

The Major looked at the man and said, "No thank you. I'm not religious."

At this point the other man should have retreated and apologized for the intrusion.

Instead he said, Even if you don't love god, He loves you!

The Major retorted, "Well, you are certainly entitled to you opinion."

It is likely the man was a clergyman or an Evangelical who wanted to invite my wife and I to his church. Proselytisation is a big part of Christianity and has been for two millennia.

The Christian right often suggests that atheism is a religion. Most non-believers simply want to be left alone by the likes of the Evangelical the Major met on the beach.

Atheists don't  proselytize. We don't try to make religious people into non-believers. However, if pressed about our "beliefs' we will be happy to explain there is little evidence for a supreme being.

Most atheists are also agnostic. We know that the existence of God can nether be proven or disproven. Many Christians on the other hand, are gnostic, they intuitively know that God exists.

Most of the friction arises between non-believers and religious when religious people try to force their values on others by insisting on prayers at the start of public events or by adding religious content to schools or other public institutions.

Evangelicals are also cliquish. There are evangelical cliques in the armed services.  This is big problem in the Air Force because the Air Force Academy is located near Colorado Springs, an Evangelical hot bed. Many of the young academy graduates who will  be the future leaders of the air Force marry local evangelical girls.

By cliquishness, the major means this. You are either one of use or against us. There are no gray areas in the Evangelical mind.

It is interesting that the Evangelical the major met at the beach assumed God is a man. The Hebrew creator was named Elohim, a plural form, and Elohim was both male and female.

Elohim created two gods, Yahweh, who was male and Asherah, who was female. King Joseph or Josiah, get rid of Asherah around 600 BCE. Asherah was more popular than Jahweh, who was a mashugana.

At the time, Asherah had shrines along roads and her likeness was in every Hebrew kitchen. King Josiah encouraged the exclusive worship of Yahweh and outlawed all other forms of worship. So Judaism became a monotheistic religion.

If you are interested in what happens when Evangelical and atheists debate, check out some of the Rational Response Squad videos on You Tube: see  http://youtu.be/D-rKiGJrcNw

Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort got creamed in the May, 2007 debate.

source: http://www.rationalresponders.com/

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Monday, March 5, 2012

How religion has retarded society




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Neil deGrasse Tyson, an American astrophysicist and Director of the Hayden Planetarium, discusses how Islamic fundamentalist destroyed the enlightenment era of the Middle East and why we should be concerned today.roman 
What Tyson is talking about also happened in Europe for a 1,000 years after the fall of the Roman Empire.
When the Moors invaded Spain 711, Spain was still in the dark ages and the Moors were hundreds of years ahead of the Spanish. 
Then something regressive happened to Islamic culture. Tyson explains it well. 
Could this happen in the US, too? You betcha. 
As Barry Goldwater explained to The Advocate
I don't have any respect for the Religious Right. There is no place in this country for practicing religion in politics. That goes for Falwell, Robertson and all the rest of these political preachers. They are a detriment to the country.


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Saturday, February 18, 2012

CBS DC: ‘We Are Stronger’ to Hold Massive Rally On National Mall Next Month


WASHINGTON, D.C. (CBSDC) – "Thousands of atheists are expected to attend the Reason Rally next month in Washington, D.C., an event that organizers hope will unify a large part of the secular community.

On March 24, the National Mall will be populated by those who sympathize with atheist perspectives, generally defined by an absence in belief of deities or other religious icons."

Rightardia prefers the term 'non-believer" rather than atheist because non-believer is a more inclusive term. Non-believers include atheists, agnostics, and people who no longer attend church. 


For that matter a person wh0 is religious and even believes in organized religion, but also firmly believes in the separation of church and state should be welcome in a secular movement. 

Early in the history of the US, we had deist leaders who believed in God, but not organized religion. Many of our founders, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin  Franklin and John Adams were deists. 


The Reason Rally hopes to affect the 2012 elections by injecting a discussion of the separation between church and state into the national dialogue. 

This is overdue because the right wing has been distorting the secular nature of our nation for years. 

The Reason Rally should be as inclusive as possible. 


‘We Are Stronger’: Atheists To Hold Massive Rally On National Mall Next Month « CBS DC

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Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Zina Saunders; The Founders on Christianity



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See more at http://www.zinasaunders.com -- The Founding Fathers tell us, in their own words, why they didn't mention God in the Constitution. 

The animation, as always, was written, animated and acted by Zina Saunders.

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Monday, February 6, 2012

Real Time with Bill Maher: atheism and an unbaptism




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The Real Time host brings Mitt Romney's father-in-law back to the realm of the dead atheist.

Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position.


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Monday, July 6, 2009

Steve Kangas FAQ: Did The Founders intended the U.S. to be a Christian republic?

Editor's Note:  In the last article Rightardia wrote on the separation of church and state, it was pointed that God, Christianity and Jesus are not mentioned in the Constitution or the Articles of Confederation. President John Adams also signed the Treaty of Tripoli that was ratified by the US Senate. It stated the US was not a Christian nation. There is also a legal doctrine on the separation of church and state that is based on more than 50 federal and Supreme Court cases. This article reflects the views of Steve Kangas on the Founders intents on religion.

Myth: The Founders intended the U.S. to be a Christian republic.

Fact: If the Founders had wanted a Christian republic, they would have made one.



Summary

If the Founders had intended this to be a Christian Republic, they would not have separated Church and State in the constitution. Besides, many of the founders were Deists or atheists, not Christians; it would have been impossible for them to intend a Christian Republic.



Argument

The First Amendment states:
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…"
Article VI, Section 3 of the constitution also states:
    "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States, and of the several States, shall be bound by oath or affirmation to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
By now virtually everyone knows the argument that making the United States a Christian republic would violate the First Amendment rights of Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, atheists, agnostics, etc. But fewer people realize that it would also violate the First Amendment rights of Christians as well. Which of the 2,500 Christian denominations would we choose as the Christian orthodoxy upon which to base the republic? Seventh-day Adventists and Catholics are complete opposites to each other, and, in fact, are sworn enemies. Thus, a Christian Republic would certainly involve a small minority forcing its views on the majority.

Be that as it may, did the Founders actually intend for Christianity to play a greater role in our society than it has? Prior to the constitution, 11 of 13 states had religious qualifications for public office. These were limited to Christians only, and sometimes even Protestants only. However, the Constitutional Convention voted down such qualifications, creating the separation of church and state that we find in the First Amendment today. If this is not proof of the Founders intentions, then what is?

One should remember that the Founders lived in the 18th century, just as the horrors of the Inquisition were winding down. Anyone who overly opposed the Roman Catholic Church was arrested by the Inquisition as a heretic. They were tortured until they confessed their guilt, then handed over to the state for execution. The state, in full partnership with the church, would then prove its loyalty by carrying out the execution. Those Founders who were Christians were Protestants, and had they lived in Europe they would have been persecuted by the Inquisition. It was this identification with "heretics" that compelled them to build "a wall of separation between Church and State."

This famous phrase was coined by Thomas Jefferson in his letter to the Danbury Baptists:
    "Believing that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." -- Thomas Jefferson to Danbury Baptists, 1802.
Some Christians have tried to argue that this wall is "one-way," that the state may not interfere with religion, but religion may interfere with the state. However, this is an impossibility, since by definition any control that a denomination achieves over the state will automatically become state infringement on the religious rights of others.

Besides, many of the Founders were hardly Christians. There were several Deists, most prominent among them Thomas Jefferson. Deism rejected formal or organized religion, including Christianity; it taught that people should depend on human reasoning, not revealed truths, to discern what is true in the world. Deism rejected the divinity of Jesus and ascribed his miracles and resurrection to "mysticisms, fancies and falsehoods" (Jefferson's words).

Another standout is Benjamin Franklin. The body of his work strongly suggests that he was an atheist. Like most atheist politicians since, Franklin was not so impolitic as to broadcast this fact. He sometimes evoked Providence or God in his speeches, ever mindful of his Christian audiences. But anyone familiar with Franklin's writings knows of his true philosophy towards religion.

Thus, the fact that not all the Founders were Christians, and that they actually removed a widespread Christian qualification for office in the U.S. constitution, proves that the Founders did not intend this to be a Christian republic.


Source: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-christianrepublic.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States


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