A message form God, for those who aren't voting by absentee ballot

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God abandons Tim T-Bone

Tim T-Bone: God was at the Saints-49er's  game today.

The New England Patriots thrashed Denver 45-10 and the game was over at halftime. Tom Brady, the NE QB,  passed for five TDs in the first half. Brady threw another TD the second half.

Tim T-Bone said:

God had another plan for me today!


Perhaps Tim didn't genuflect enough in the football game. Well, there is next season.

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SNL: Michele Bachmann admits to texting with God

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Hysterical Raisins: Cain is en-Abled by relgion

ATLANTA – Herman Cain told a crowd of Young Republicans on Saturday that God convinced him to run for president and that he “prayed and prayed and prayed” about it.

Maybe he just can’t spell, and he meant preyed and preyed.

Cain said to the Young Republicans an event hosted by the Georgia Young Republicans at the Westin Peachtree Plaza:

I prayed and prayed and prayed. I’m a man of faith, I had to do a lot of praying for this one, more praying than I’d ever done before in my life. And when I finally realized that it was God saying that this is what I needed to do, I was like Moses. ‘You’ve got the wrong man, Lord. Are you sure?

sources: National Journal and (c) Nonnie9999

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Man invented God

John Lennon write these lyrics "no heaven … no hell below us … and no religion too."


In an LA times article, scientists support the conclusion that it was humans who created God, it was not the other way around.


Of interest, ancient priests often use the science of hydraulics and pneumatics to magically open temple doors and to make statutes weep to convince people of a supernatural presence. Of course, this mystical religion  always supported the local king and state against the gods in the next village.


Most early religions were polytheistic because each village and city had their own god. When a king gained control over a region, a a pantheon of god and goddesses were incorporated into this regional religion that respected the god of each village. 


Monotheism originated in Egypt. Pharaoh Akhenaten abandoned traditional Egyptian polytheism and introducing worship centered on the Aten, the sun god. Of course, Pharaoh Akhenaten was descended from Aten. This was an early version of the divine right of kings.

Of course, the French discovered it was easy to remove the heads of nobles and kings, so the Divine right of Kings theory quickly fell out of fashion. 


Many Christians think Judaism was a monotheistic religion but Jaweh was created by El or Elohim and Jahweh had a wife named Asherah. Asherah was more popular than Jahweh who was a knave so the Israelite priesthood with King Joseph's blessing decided to get rid of her. Poof, Judaism was monotheistic!

Did men invent god? This is more plausible than the myth in Genesis. Most religious texts were written in the Bronze age before logic and science arose. Many Americans hold the ancient Israelites in higher regard than the Greeks who were the true superstars of the ancient world.

The Greeks had their mythology and Gods,too,   but they also gave us science and logic.

source: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/18/opinion/la-oe-thompson-atheism-20110718

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Three different creation stories

by Secular Human

Nightline (ABC) marked the first "Nightline Face-Off," in which, according to a press release, "hot topics get discussed among prominent voices in their field."

This inaugural segment also came billed as the first network-news debate about the existence of God. If he or she does exist and is just, it will be the last. Representing the Supreme Being were evangelical minister Ray Comfort and actor Kirk Cameron—Mike Seaver on 123 episodes of the sitcom Growing Pains and, more recently, Buck Williams in three films adapted from the apocalyptic Left Behind novels.

Together, Comfort and Cameron host The Way of the Master, a syndicated show most notable for discovering distasteful ways to combine street preaching and getting belligerent. Nightline dug up some footage of Comfort and Cameron trying to save the soul of an overtanned transvestite.

Comfort and Cameron came up with an interesting analogy about God. They view the Earth as a painting and therefore there must be a painter: God. Of course, anyone who understands basic logic knows that although an analogy may be useful in making a point, analogies aren't necessarily logical and there are many false analogies.

Let's take a deeper look. If the painter, God, painted, the Earth, who painted the painter? This argument eventually leads to the conclusion that either the painter or the painting evolved spontaneously. If you are religious, you would prefer the former as the solution. If you believe science offers a better explanation, you would prefer the explanation that evolution offers; life evolved on the Earth slowly over billions of years.

Of course, the clerics suggest God has always been there, but that is a matter of faith. At one time scientists believed the universe had always been here, too, but red shifts in stars made it clear all of the stars are moving away from each other that supported a 'big bang' theory.

The third explanation is the one that Secular Human prefers. Men invented God. Think about it!

source: Democratic Underground

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Conservatives invoke God to stop national health care reform

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Oh, boy! Here is a Jimmy Swagert impersonator named Lou Engel leading two senators in prayer.

One is Sen. Jim DeMint, a man who beleived he could destroy the Obama presidency by defeating health care.

The other Senator is Sam Brownback, a man who wants to be the governor of Kansas. Brownback is a C-Streeter and associated with the Family, a Christo-fascist organisation, that tries to insert religion into American institutions using stealth.

Of interest, Lous Engle is not a doctor of divinity, a pastor, or a reverend. He is not an ordained minister, but he is a good actor and comes across gushing sincerity for his religious convictions. Elmer Gantry would have been impressed.

This is the kind of old fashioned low brow religion that pushes educated people away from churches. 

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Steve Kangas FAQ: Did The Founders intended the U.S. to be a Christian republic?

Editor's Note:  In the last article Rightardia wrote on the separation of church and state, it was pointed that God, Christianity and Jesus are not mentioned in the Constitution or the Articles of Confederation. President John Adams also signed the Treaty of Tripoli that was ratified by the US Senate. It stated the US was not a Christian nation. There is also a legal doctrine on the separation of church and state that is based on more than 50 federal and Supreme Court cases. This article reflects the views of Steve Kangas on the Founders intents on religion.

Myth: The Founders intended the U.S. to be a Christian republic.

Fact: If the Founders had wanted a Christian republic, they would have made one.



Summary

If the Founders had intended this to be a Christian Republic, they would not have separated Church and State in the constitution. Besides, many of the founders were Deists or atheists, not Christians; it would have been impossible for them to intend a Christian Republic.



Argument

The First Amendment states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…"

Article VI, Section 3 of the constitution also states:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States, and of the several States, shall be bound by oath or affirmation to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

By now virtually everyone knows the argument that making the United States a Christian republic would violate the First Amendment rights of Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, atheists, agnostics, etc. But fewer people realize that it would also violate the First Amendment rights of Christians as well. Which of the 2,500 Christian denominations would we choose as the Christian orthodoxy upon which to base the republic? Seventh-day Adventists and Catholics are complete opposites to each other, and, in fact, are sworn enemies. Thus, a Christian Republic would certainly involve a small minority forcing its views on the majority.

Be that as it may, did the Founders actually intend for Christianity to play a greater role in our society than it has? Prior to the constitution, 11 of 13 states had religious qualifications for public office. These were limited to Christians only, and sometimes even Protestants only. However, the Constitutional Convention voted down such qualifications, creating the separation of church and state that we find in the First Amendment today. If this is not proof of the Founders intentions, then what is?

One should remember that the Founders lived in the 18th century, just as the horrors of the Inquisition were winding down. Anyone who overly opposed the Roman Catholic Church was arrested by the Inquisition as a heretic. They were tortured until they confessed their guilt, then handed over to the state for execution. The state, in full partnership with the church, would then prove its loyalty by carrying out the execution. Those Founders who were Christians were Protestants, and had they lived in Europe they would have been persecuted by the Inquisition. It was this identification with "heretics" that compelled them to build "a wall of separation between Church and State."

This famous phrase was coined by Thomas Jefferson in his letter to the Danbury Baptists:

"Believing that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." -- Thomas Jefferson to Danbury Baptists, 1802.

Some Christians have tried to argue that this wall is "one-way," that the state may not interfere with religion, but religion may interfere with the state. However, this is an impossibility, since by definition any control that a denomination achieves over the state will automatically become state infringement on the religious rights of others.

Besides, many of the Founders were hardly Christians. There were several Deists, most prominent among them Thomas Jefferson. Deism rejected formal or organized religion, including Christianity; it taught that people should depend on human reasoning, not revealed truths, to discern what is true in the world. Deism rejected the divinity of Jesus and ascribed his miracles and resurrection to "mysticisms, fancies and falsehoods" (Jefferson's words).

Another standout is Benjamin Franklin. The body of his work strongly suggests that he was an atheist. Like most atheist politicians since, Franklin was not so impolitic as to broadcast this fact. He sometimes evoked Providence or God in his speeches, ever mindful of his Christian audiences. But anyone familiar with Franklin's writings knows of his true philosophy towards religion.

Thus, the fact that not all the Founders were Christians, and that they actually removed a widespread Christian qualification for office in the U.S. constitution, proves that the Founders did not intend this to be a Christian republic.


Source: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-christianrepublic.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States


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National Academy of Sciences determines God is an Abstract Concept

Today the National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) determined after studying religious texts from all over the world that God is an abstract concept and none of the major religions have any clue who God really is.

The National Academies consist of four organizations: the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, the Institute of Medicine, and the National Research Council. It was created in 1863 by a congressional charter approved by President Abraham Lincoln.

According to Wikipedia conceptions of God vary widely. Theologians and philosophers have studied God since the dawn of civilization. The Abrahamic conceptions of God include the trinitarian view of Christians, the Kabbalistic definition of Jewish mysticism, and the Islamic concept of God.

“Most people of the Jewish faith believe in a God who was somewhat of an arse,” said Doctor Aloysius DeJardin, one of the Senior Fellows at the NAS. Christians believe in a more compassionate God.

The Asian religions differ in their view of the divine: views of God in Hinduism vary by region, sect, and caste, ranging from monotheistic to polytheistic to atheistic; the view of God in Buddhism is almost non-theist.

Views of God held by individual believers vary so widely that there is no clear consensus on the nature of God. The contemporaneous French philosopher Michel Henry proposed a phenomenological approach and definition of God as the essence of Life.

Dr. DeJardin, one of the senior scientists, indicated they used SI Haykawa's abstraction ladder described in Language in Thought and Action to determine if God was concrete or abstract. After 5 minutes we determined that God was at the very top of the abstraction ladder.

In philosophical terminology, abstraction is the thought process wherein ideas are distanced from objects.

Abstraction uses a strategy of simplification, wherein formerly concrete details are left ambiguous, vague, or undefined; thus effective communication about things in the abstract requires an intuitive or common experience between the communicator and the communication recipient.

The National Academy of Sciences chastised both theologians and politicians for being evasively abstract on a variety of religious and political issues. Terms like God, the Trinity, immaculate conception, and family values are abstract and mean different things to different people.

“Theologians and some politicians, primarily the conservative ones, need to talk in more concrete terms,” Dr. DeJardin said. “theologians and politicians need to stop weasel wording and get to the point.“

Science is starting to make breakthroughs on God. The Spitzer telescope recently discovered a God Blob 12.9 billion light years from Earth, nearly at the time of creation. He also noted that CERN was looking for the God particle of Higgs's boson that stirred up a hornet's nest in the Vatican. The Vatican is opposed to the idea that God is made up of particles and believe the CERN testing could open up a black hole that will unleash the Anti-Christ on Earth.
“All I want to say at this time about the Vatican view is 'wow, '” laughed DeJardin.

Dr. DeJardin also wondered how people have been able to pray to an abstract object for all of these years.

Language in Thought and Action: Fifth Edition (Paperback) by S.I. Hayakawa

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

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