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Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Thursday, January 20, 2011

Christ died to save us from our sins?


Erich Veith wrote an article about a crazy old man who crucified himself to "save his children." We have heard the story of atonement before, haven't we?

Did Christ really die to save us from our sins? Where in the Old Testament (Torah) does it say  that the son of God has to die so the world can go on? Does this concept even make sense?

Let's suppose that Jesus really was the Son of God and he sent Jesus to Earth to "save it." A group of Italians and Jews got together and decided to kill Jesus. Would God have been pleased by the death of his son?

Rightardia doesn't think so. The God of Old Testament would have come down from the heavens and destroyed the Earth for such blasphemy and disrespect. 

The Disciples were actually amazed that the Romans were so easily able to kill the Son of God.

Enter stage right the Holy Ghost. One of the ancient texts had the Ghost leaving the body of Jesus and laughing a the Romans after they crucified Jesus. That book never made it into the final cut of the bible.

The resurrection also explains that Jesus really didn't die either, because he rose form the dead and ascended into heaven.

This is the official story that explains away the death of Jesus who was executed as a common criminal.

The story became even more incredible after the death of Jesus. 

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Thursday, January 6, 2011

Dangerous Intersection: Is religion a scam?

Dangerous Intersection has a great article on this subject: See http://dangerousintersection.org/2011/01/05/alabama-atheist-billboard-controvery/

Secular Human broke the code on religion when he read some of the works of Immanuel Kant in college. Kant stated that no act is moral if it done for an exchange. A moral act should stand on its own.

In other words, if you are going to a church, synagogue or mosque for the promised reward of heaven, you are going to church for a self-interest.

A lot of sales people join churches to peddle their wares and make social contacts. Sales people and funeral home directors love churches. You will see their ads in the church bulletin.

Is anyone surprised that conservatives embrace religion more than progressives? Churches provide a strong emotional appeal with all that church music, singing and oratory.

This appeals to conservative with large amygdalas. See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1342239/Brain-study-reveals-right-wing-conservatives-larger-primitive-amygdala.html

However, those on the left have brains with thicker anterior cingulates. This area of the brain associated with anticipation and decision-making. It also connects the left and right lobes of the brain together. 
Many progressives view religion as irrational.

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Saturday, November 27, 2010

Non-Believers 2, Christians -0

We like the debates between the non-believers and the religious who are usually fundamentalist or evangelical Christians. 

Rightardia call the latter Kumbaya Christians. These people believe everything will be all right as long as you believe in Jesus.

Many of these right wing Christians equate free enterprise and US nationalism with Christianity. Rightardia would like to see some biblical chapter and verse that can makes that connection.

What follows is part of an earlier debate between athiest Rapid Response Squad and two christians who took thier challenge. 

The Rational Response Squad" —  atheists Brian Sapient and his comrade, a woman who goes by the name of Kelly.

Both had been included in a previous "Nightline" report, telling the story of the Blasphemy Challenge in which they invited atheists to deny the existence of the Holy Spirit by posting videotaped denunciations on their Web site.

The debate  was run in toto on ABC's Night Line. Martin Basheer was the moderator.

Kirk Cameron, the child actor, and his preacher partner, Ray Comfort, took the challenge and said they would prove the existence of God. Check out one of the the videos of this debate

Mr. Comfort and Mr. Cameron stated repeatedly that they would prove the existence of God, "scientifically, absolutely, without mentioning faith or the Bible." Ray Comforts opening statement was based on Scripture and the 10 Commandments.

It's an approach Mr. Comfort uses often. For another example, listen to his "What Hollywood Believes" sermon. Comfort uses the 10 Commandments and scripture to make his case, which, of course,  mentions faith and the Bible.

Nothing can be proven scientifically and absolutely; science doesn't deal in absolutes. Nor does it deal in "proof." If you need proof, look into mathematics or formal logic. You'll find no such concepts in science, which only concerns itself with evidence.

This is why nothing ever gets beyond the status of "theory" in science. If Mr. Comfort doesn't understand that, then he doesn't understand what the academic discipline we call "science" fundamentally is, and really shouldn't be throwing the word "scientifically" around.

However, theories are highly regarded in the scientific community if backed up empirical evidence. Theories are also constantly evolving based on new data. The Bible, on the other hand, has changed little in the past 2,000 years.

Secular humanist scientists have also pointed out errors and contradictions in the Bible. Many archeologist's believe Jericho had been abandoned when the Israelites captured the fortress city.

The story of the Exodus is not documented in Egyptian documents written in the hieroglyphs of the whiten language or the scribes, hieratic. The Old Testament (Torah)  was written during the Babylonian captivity and the story of Noah's Ark is believed to be a far older story from Babylonian mythology.



The Rational Response Squad crew won this debate hands-down, and any honest, competent moderator would have granted them a decisive victory.

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron clearly failed to stick to the terms of the debate. They even failed to stick to their own stated position.

it should also be obvious why right wing Christians dislike secular humanists perhaps even more than atheists. Secular humanist scholars, archeologist's and geologists have used science to critically examine many of the stories in the Bible. Many Bibical accounts have been found to be without merit.

sources: http://www.rationalresponders.com/ and http://www.rationalresponders.com/sapient_pwns_ray_comfort_and_kirk_cameron

 http://www.rationalresponders.com/ and http://www.rationalresponders.com/sapient_pwns_ray_comfort_and_kirk_cameron
 
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Tuesday, July 13, 2010

Dangerous Intersection: Anti-Religious Atheism

By Erich Vieth on July 12th, 201 Redefining science


Rightardia has condensed parts 1 and 2 of this article.

I do not believe in any sort of sentient “God.” I do not believe in any sort of personified “Creator” of the universe. I never had any such beliefs. Nor do I think that science has all of the “answers” (as though we know how to ask the right questions).

Looking back over my past few years of writings, however, I can see that I have come a long way regarding my approach to religion. Prior to 2001, I was mostly in the live-and-let-live camp. Then came 9/11 when the destructive power of many religions (including American religions) came front and center.

Out of mouths allegedly professing the words of God Himself, we heard plenty of bigotry (often aimed at gays, non-believers, people of Middle Eastern ancestry and, of course, members of other religions), war-mongering, anti-science, pro-ignorance, and biblical literalism.

I pushed back forcefully–one of my prime motivations for starting Dangerous Intersection was my strong reaction to the rise of conservative religions in the United States. Eventually, though, I came to realize that my reaction was overboard.

My concern should not so much have been against religion, but against those specific religious communities that encourage their members to engage in destructive behavior. I think that I understand why I made this error; following 9/11, almost all American religions chose to be silent in the face of the destructive behavior by competitor religions.

I viewed that widespread silence as general approval. I assumed, based somewhat on the increasingly conservative views of several close acquaintances who had been religious moderates, that even moderate religious beliefs too often served as slippery slopes to fundamentalism.

Over the past year, I spent many hours writing a long article on my own “spiritual” journey. Writing this chapter was an intense exercise in self-discovery that drew from many of the posts I’ve made at this blog.

I originally planned to publish my article as a book chapter that was to be called “Mending Fences with Believers and Moving On.” My chapter eventually grew to an unwieldy length that branched off into several distinct (but related) topics. What follows is list of each of the Parts of “Mending Fences with Believers and Moving On.”

When Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and the other “new atheists” first launched their attacks on religion a few years ago, I was delighted. After decades of relative silence, the mass media was finally giving some atheists a chance to present my view that virgins don’t have babies and that dead people don’t regain consciousness.

Harris, Dawkins and other new atheists dared to argue in public that there is no sentient version of God; they reminded believers that all believers were atheists regarding Zeus, as well as all of the purported gods other than their own God.

The writings of the new atheists energized considerable discussion, much of it thoughtful. Even a cursory review of the many websites and YouTube videos considering religion makes it clear that many teenagers and young adults have actively joined discussions triggered by the new atheists.

In the wake of this energized discussion, many of us became proficient at pointing out the hundreds of contradictions and absurdities in the Bible. We repeatedly called foul whenever we spotted theists cherry-picking the Bible (none of you are wearing clothes made of linen and wool, I hope!).

We repeatedly reminded believers of Carl Sagan’s caveat that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Many of us dug even deeper, studying the philosophy of science, so that we could clearly explain to believers that to be meaningful, claims had to be falsifiable.

Not that these arguments actually convinced believers (at least, not in my personal experience), but they did serve to announce our view that religious claims must no longer be privileged—they shouldn’t be assumed to be true and that they must be put under the microscope (as Daniel Dennett urged in Breaking the Spell) like every other natural phenomenon.

Thanks to the arrival of the new atheists, all of these important issues started receiving unflinching media attention.

These past few years have been emotionally and intellectually exhilarating for skeptics of all stripes. Those of us who have maintained skeptical websites have become further energized and intellectually sharpened by reading each others’ posts and by carefully re-reading the Bible and the Koran armed with knives rather than intellectual queasiness.


The books and media appearances of the new atheists, as well as the many websites by hundreds of newly awakened atheists, have created a community where there had previously been only isolated individuals.

The work of the new atheists thus revealed to each of us that none of us was alone in scrutinizing and criticizing the supernatural claims of religions. Many energized atheists have boldly stepped out of their closets and started becoming vocal as a group, especially when believers callously asserted that all atheists are ipso facto immoral and hell-bound.

Who among us doesn’t still feel the intense emotional sting when reminded of the following statement by George H. W. Bush, speaking as the Vice-President of the United States on August 27, 1987 while running for President) :

“No, I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.”

No wonder the new atheists counter-attacked with such vigor!
The writings of the new atheists didn’t merely attack the people who mindlessly characterized us as second-class citizens, however. Their attacks went much further.

Sam Harris argued (again, this resonated with me) that as a result of their religious beliefs, all religions were absurd and dangerous and that all religious moderates have been giving cover and encouragement to the destructive practices of religious extremists.

Similarly, Richard Dawkins argued that religious moderates make the world safe for fundamentalists by promoting faith as a virtue and by enforcing an overly pious respect for religion.

In a 2006 interview published by Time Magazine, Dawkins, referring to fundamentalists, stated: “Why bother with these clowns?” Harris and Dawkins, joined by Christopher Hitchens and others of similar temperament, have attacked every sort of faith and every type of religion.

In this article, I’ll refer to these writers and their supporters as the “anti-religion” new atheists.

Not all new atheists are “anti-religion” new atheists. For example, Daniel Dennett gets his well-considered points across clearly and forcefully without calling for the elimination of all religions. Instead, Dennett has proposed that parents may teach their children any religion they want, as long as it is not likely to close their minds:

A) through fear or hatred or
B) by disabling them from inquiry (by denying them an education, for instance, or keeping them entirely isolated from the world.

Monday, March 29, 2010

Liberals and atheists are smarter


"General intelligence, the ability to think and reason, endowed our ancestors with advantages in solving evolutionarily novel problems for which they did not have innate solutions," says Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics and Political Science.

Data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health (Add Health) support Kanazawa's hypothesis. Young adults who subjectively identify themselves as "very liberal" have an average IQ of 106 during adolescence while those who identify themselves as "very conservative" have an average IQ of 95 during adolescence.

Similarly, religion is a byproduct of humans' tendency to perceive agency and intention as causes of events, to see "the hands of God" at work behind otherwise natural phenomena.

"Humans are evolutionarily designed to be paranoid, and they believe in God because they are paranoid," says Kanazawa. This innate bias toward paranoia served humans well when self-preservation and protection of their families and clans depended on extreme vigilance to all potential dangers. "So, more intelligent children are more likely to grow up to go against their natural evolutionary tendency to believe in God, and they become atheists."

Young adults who identify themselves as "not at all religious" have an average IQ of 103 during adolescence, while those who identify themselves as "very religious" have an average IQ of 97 during adolescence.

In addition, humans have always been mildly polygynous in evolutionary history. Men in polygynous marriages were not expected to be sexually exclusive to one mate, whereas men in monogamous marriages were.

In sharp contrast, whether they are in a monogamous or polygynous marriage, women were always expected to be sexually exclusive to one mate. So being sexually exclusive is evolutionarily novel for men, but not for women.

And the theory predicts that more intelligent men are more likely to value sexual exclusivity than less intelligent men, but general intelligence makes no difference for women's value on sexual exclusivity. Kanazawa's analysis of Add Health data supports these sex-specific predictions as well.

Rightardia comment: Other studies have shown that conservatives are more fearful about the world than liberals. in addition, Lawrence Kohlberg did a lot of research on conventional and post-conventional thought. 

Post-conventional or liberal people have almost always attended college and develop liberal thought  in their mid-thirties or later. Although such post-conventional thinkers can understand lower level conventional or conservative thinking, conventional thinkers have a much harder time understanding liberal ideas.

The health care debate heightened the differences of thinking between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives were prone to gross exaggeration and incendiary language. 


The Tea Partiers seemed to the least astute group of conservatives. The Tea Partiers feared health care changes which should have made them less fearful. Clearly IQ and education had something to do with the extreme perceptions Tea Partiers has toward universal health care and change in general.

See the complete article at http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm

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Friday, December 25, 2009

UPI.com: Illinois police protect atheist sign




Published: Dec. 24, 2009 at 9:50 PM

SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Dec. 24 (UPI) -- A conservative candidate for Illinois comptroller was ordered out of the state Capitol for trying to remove a sign placed by an atheist group, officials said.

William J. Kelly calls the sign, placed by the Freedom from Religion Foundation, "hate speech," saying it mocks the views of believers, CBS2Chicago.com reported. He announced Tuesday he was going to try to remove it and made his attempt Wednesday, only to be detained by police.

"I don't think the State of Illinois has any business denigrating or mocking any religion, and I think that's what the verbiage on the sign was doing," Kelly said.

The foundation has placed similar signs in several state capitol buildings. It was on display in the Illinois Capitol last year.

The group's message reads:

 "At the time of the winter solstice, let reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is just myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."


source: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/12/24/Illinois-police-protect-atheist-sign/UPI-14301261709429

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