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Showing posts with label catholic church. Show all posts
Showing posts with label catholic church. Show all posts

Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Monday, February 20, 2012

Monday, February 13, 2012

Fox News tries to spin Contraception Coverage



Ralph Reed explains to Sean Hannity how the Obama ruling on contraception will tear the social fabric apart in the case of the safety net for the poor. Of course, the ruling on insurance providing a birth control prescriptions has marginal effect on homeless shelters or food depositories for the poor.

The Catholic Church is doing a fine job of helping the poor compared to most protestant churches that provide lip service and occasional annual events , but do little else.

When GW Bush was president, he proposed turning the US welfare system over to the churches. Church leaders showed little interest in Bush's idea.

Ellen Ratner tried to make the case for birth control coverage,  but Hannity cut her off and changed the subject with an irrelevant  abstract question: Do you believe in religious freedom?

Hannity also suggested that Ratner's contention that 53 per cent of Catholic women want birth control coverage was untrue. Hannity always has to have the last word, doesn't he?

Ratner was right and Hannity was not. See http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2012/02/contraception-catholic-bishops-obama-hhs/1

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Why Obama should not offer further compromises to the Catholic Church


The Catholic Church and conservatives will make noise about quasi-religious organizations providing birth control coverage to women. Catholic women overwhelmingly want this.

By quasi-religious, Rightardia means an institution that are staffed by people from different religions who provide services to people regardless of their religion.

Rightardia thinks the Obama administration has gotten this issue right and don't need to roll over to accommodate the shrill right wing.
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Sunday, February 12, 2012

Mario Piperni: The Church, Birth Control and Santorumatozoa

"Mr. Obama announced that rather than requiring religiously affiliated charities and universities to pay for contraceptives for their employees, the cost would be shifted to health insurance companies. The initial rule caused a political uproar among some Catholics and others who portrayed it as an attack on religious freedom.


As for the Catholic Church’s concerns over birth control, I’m (Mario Piperni) going with Bill Maher on this one.

The Catholic Church was livid about this. They should not be forced to pay for something they hate and they don’t believe in. The vagina."

See http://mariopiperni.com/catholic-church/the-church-birth-control-and-santorumatozoa.php

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Friday, February 10, 2012

NMA: Obama vs. the Catholic Church




Posted by admin on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

President Barack Obama has upset Catholics. He wants Catholic groups to pay for contraceptives and abortions as part of employee healthcare.

Catholic and other religious leaders see this as an attack on First Amendment freedoms.
Obama in 2009 had promised Catholics a “conscience clause.”

What is Obama thinking? Obama won the Catholic vote in 2008, and Catholics are a huge force in swing states in 2012.

Does Obama thinks his pro-choice allies will overpower the Catholic Church, or has he made a massive political miscalculation?

Rightardia thinks the Catholic Church is upset, but suspects most Catholic women are pleased by the ruling. Most cathodic women practice birth control regardless of the Roman Catholic church's position on that subject. 

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Thursday, February 9, 2012

What religious affiliated means

Rightardia can understand that a church, mosque or synagogue providing health insurance to employees would want their health coverage to conform to religious doctrine.

However, what specifically does the term religious affiliated mean when it applies to a hospital or other organization that is not a religious facility or institution?

For example, Bay Front Medical Center joined a regional alliance with two hospitals: St. Anthony's in St. Petersburg and St. Joseph's in Tampa,

As a condition for partnering with the Catholic hospitals, Bayfront and the other hospitals agreed to accept the church's ethical and religious directives on medical care -- a fact Bayfront executives foolishly did not disclose at the time.

However, the Bayfront land is leased from the City of St. Petersburg.

The American Civil Liberties Union, the National Organization for Women and other groups are demanding "separation of church and state' for the hospital.

One writer for the St, Petersburg times suggests the city is to blame because Mayor David Fischer and the City Council are insisting that Bayfront's acceptance of Catholic directives cannot be allowed to stand, The city allows no discrimination based on race or gender. Council members believe the religious directive against elective abortion is a lease violation.

Although the city could end up shuttering the hospital, the Catholic church could also modify its ethical and religious directives so this won't happen. Some flexibility on both sides is needed.

It is one thing to take an absolute position on abortion. On the other hand hospitals could assist women with abortion alternatives and terminate pregnancies as exceptions. 

Much ado has been made about Planned Parenthood and abortion, but only three per cent of what Planned Parenthood does pertains to abortion. 

In the Christo-fascist world of absolutes, many wingers would prefer to throw the baby out with the bath water. 

It is hard to compromise with people who are uncompromising. Barry Goldwater noted: 

On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.


source: New Polls Showing Catholic Support For Contraception Coverage Further Undermine “ War On Religion“ Claim

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