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Showing posts with label democracy. Show all posts
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Friday, July 22, 2011

Beck: "We're not a democracy . . .



Here we go again. Beck claims the US is not a democracy. The ancient Greeks defined the two forms of government that almost all countries use today

The Athenians had a democracy and the Spartans: an oligarchy.

An oligarchy can be ruled by a king or a dictator; In Sparta, it actually had two kings.

Republicans like to suggest that the US is a republic, but that is really apples and oranges.

According to Wikipedia, A republic is a form of government in which the people, or some significant portion of them, retain supreme control over the government.

Likewise, in a republic offices of state are not granted through heritage.

The common modern definition of a republic is a government having a head of state who is not a monarch.

Steve Kangas has written:

The U.S. is a democracy -- just not a direct one. Every branch of our government -- executive, legislative, judicial, monetary -- ultimately derives its power from majority rule or approval. By making our democracy indirect instead of direct, the Founders prevented unrestrained mob rule, allowing a more reasonable pace of majority rule, and greater room for compromise.

Kangas also notes that this is a quibble over definitions, because a constitutional republic is a type of democracy.

In Beck's radio show, he also said:

Majority Rule Is Mob Rule -- Bad.


The Major listened to the audio and thought at least one of the two speakers was drunk because he noticed slurred speech. 

Perhaps more important questions are why do Republicans think the US is not a Democracy? Does the GOP think America is a plutocracy or meritocracy? 

What form of government does the GOP really want: a plutocracy run by corporations? 

Corporatism is just another word, of course, for fascism. 

This seems to be what the GOP would prefer for America: a fascist oligarchy run by corporate bosses that emphasizes the primacy of business over the needs of its citizens. 

This is exactly what Gov. Rick Scott is trying to push in Florida. 


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Tuesday, September 8, 2009

Democrats are the true American patriots


It is clear that the GOP has lost its edge in patriotism. The Astroturfers and Birthers are shrill right wing ideologues who prefer private health care to a new health care system that covers all Americans and bans pre-existing conditions.

Most conservatives want to move farther to the right. Of course, as you move to the right, you descend into fascism. As FDR stated:

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group.”

When government is controlled by one person, we call it a dictatorship. When the system is controlled by a group of wealthy industrialists and bankers, we call it an oligarchy.

The battle between democrats and oligarchs have been going on since the time of the ancient Greeks. The Athenian government used democratic elections. The Spartans preferred an oligarchy. Is their any surprise the Spartans were big on military defense?

The GOP oligarchy is a two tier system. Most of the leaders come through the Greek fraternity systems at American colleges and universities. The rest are successful small businessmen who seem to usually lose all of their business acumen once they enter government.

Democratic administrations have traditionally outperformed Republican in balancing the budget and reduction of the nation debt and the deficit. Democrats have also created more jobs while they were in office.

The GOP has become the party of entrenched white corporatists and small businessmen. It has become a regional power that has its base in the South and parts of the West.

Michael Steele was elected as the chair of the RNC to put more Republican brown faces in front of the electorate. The latest GOP tact is to recruit pampered athletes to run for office. One of these poltico-athletes, Sen. Jim Bunning, is so unpopular in Kentucky that he will not run for re-election.

Democrats with their emphasis on the middle class now have the edge in patriotism and need play the patriot card whenever they can.

Wave the flag, Democrats. We represent the true American heritage of the Founders such as Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. We don't believe in state' rights, a concept that was discredited when the North defeated the South in the Civil War. We believe in an America that benefits all Americans not just the GOP oligarchs.

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Friday, July 3, 2009

Steve Kangas FAQ on liberalism: Democracy vs. Constitutionalism

Summary

Perhaps no better defense of democracy exists than Thomas Jefferson's. It was his belief that majority rule is not perfect, but it is the best form of government. The only other alternatives are rule by the minority (which is worse) or rule by one person (which is even worse).

Requiring unanimous consent to pass laws is not practical, since universal agreement on an issue is extremely rare, and government would become paralyzed on controversial issues.

Many conservatives and libertarians try to get around this by advocating constitutionalism, or the protection of every individual's rights by a constitution. But this only delays by one step the dilemma that Jefferson spoke of. How is such a constitution to be written, interpreted and enforced? By a majority? A minority? Or a single person?

Argument

Jefferson's arguments on majority rule are brilliant and virtually unanswerable; it is difficult to imagine alternatives to the system he described. The following quotes highlight his philosophy on democracy:

"And where else will [Hume,] this degenerate son of science, this traitor to his fellow men, find the origin of just powers, if not in the majority of the society? Will it be in the minority? Or in an individual of that minority?" -- Thomas Jefferson to J. Cartwright, 1824.

"Where the law of the majority ceases to be acknowledged, there government ends; the law of the strongest takes its place, and life and property are his who can take them." -- Thomas Jefferson to Annapolis Citizens, 1809.

"Is uniformity of opinion desirable? No more than of face and stature." -- Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Va., 1782.

"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children since the introduction of Christianity have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity." -- Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Va., 1782.

"Difference of opinion leads to enquiry, and enquiry to truth; and I am sure...we both value too much the freedom of opinion sanctioned by our Constitution, not to cherish its exercise even where in opposition to ourselves." -- Thomas Jefferson to Mr. Wendover, 1815.

"Every man cannot have his way in all things. If his opinion prevails at some times, he should acquiesce on seeing that of others preponderate at other times. Without this mutual disposition we are disjointed individuals, but not a society." -- Thomas Jefferson to J. Dickinson, 1801.

"We are sensible of the duty and expediency of submitting our opinions to the will of the majority, and can wait with patience till they get right if they happen to be at any time wrong." -- Thomas Jefferson to J. Breckenridge, 1800.

"If the measures which have been pursued are approved by the majority, it is the duty of the minority to acquiesce and conform." -- Thomas Jefferson to W. Duane, 1811.

"Bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will, to be rightful, must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal laws must protect, and to violate would be oppression." -- Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801.

Jefferson's philosophy was that majority rule is not perfect, but it is the only form of government that reduces tyranny to the smallest degree possible. And, indeed, it is difficult to imagine alternatives which would be improvements.

Not only does majority rule ensure that the least number of people are going to be dissatisfied, but the constitution further protects the rights of the minority, telling the majority what it cannot do to tyrannize the minority.

Even so, our constitution is not drawn up by dictators, or small bands of dictators. It is ultimately approved by the majority of the people, through their elected representatives. All forms of our government ultimately boil down to majority rule.

Even so, some utopians claim it is possible to create a political system of perfect individual rights, where even the will of the minority is respected and enacted. These utopians usually call for individual rights to be protected by a much stronger constitution, and are therefore called constitutionalists.

CONSTITUTIONALISM

According to this school of thought, democracy often violates the rights of the minority. For example, under democracy, the majority can vote to tax 90 percent of what the rich make, and the rich must surrender what they have rightfully earned. (There is a question of whether the rich have really earned all their income "rightfully" or through exploitation, but let this controversial point pass.) To correct this perceived injustice, they call for a constitution that better protects the freedom, rights and property of individuals.

According to most constitutionalists, individuals have a right to keep everything they earn, a right to spend their money however they want, and a right to make contracts and associations of their own free will. No one can force them to do anything for anyone else; everything they do is by their own choice. The only exception to their freedom is that they cannot violate the rights of others. Libertarians have a popular saying: "The right to swing your fist stops at my nose."

These are perfectly laudable goals, but constitutionalists are usually vague on how they can be reached, and often ignore direct questions about what such a system would look like. What few blueprints have been offered quickly reveal their unworkability. The problems constitutionalists face are these:

* It's one thing to say that individual rights should be protected; it's quite another to identify and judge the literally millions of instances where there is a question of rights violations.

Society is filled with countless human transactions, each one different, each one changing in the face of new technology, science or social mores. And each one offers a new way for a right to be violated.

This is why the Supreme Court has such a heavy workload, and why they grapple with problems of almost unsolvable complexity. This is also why Congress is so busy passing laws; they are protecting individual rights under changing and extensive circumstances.

The constitution is only meant to state general principles of governing; it is up to Congress and the courts to apply those principles in the seemingly infinite number of specific cases where individual rights can or are violated. Which begs the question: who legislates the laws and judges the cases? A majority? A minority? Or an individual?

* Individual rights are difficult to define and protect because they are not absolute. A classic example is the right to free speech vs. the right not to be harmed by free speech.

Contrary to what the First Amendment says, many forms of speech are outlawed in this country, and rightfully so. Examples include slander, libel, perjury, insider-trading, malicious deceptions, impersonating an officer, revealing classified information, shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater, making bomb jokes in an airport, etc.

Clearly many qualifications exist to the right to free speech, but who should make the judgment calls in determining these countless qualifications? A majority? A minority? Or an individual?

Constitutionalists severely underestimate the complexity of defining and defending individual rights. Few people agree on what a "right" is, let alone how it can be violated in any specific case, let alone how it should be defended.

The diversity of opinion on the subject points up the value of democracy in resolving these issues. Constitutionalists may try to get around this by calling for scholars to work out a blueprint of a rights-based government using the strictest rules of logic and the best empirical evidence.

But our nation's scholars are already trying to do that, and still there is a broad diversity of opinion spanning the entire political spectrum. In fact, even within the Libertarian Party there is conflict among its scholars over the definition and defense of rights, and one would presume that they -- of all people -- would have a consensus by now.

The fact that not even Libertarians agree among themselves clearly proves the byzantine complexity of defining and defending rights.

The upshot is that until humans acquire perfect knowledge and perfect logic -- thereby reaching unanimous agreement -- there is no hope of knowing how a constitution should be written to achieve a utopia of perfect individual rights. Lacking this omniscience, the people do best by determining their laws and constitutions by majority rule.

Some constitutionalists go too far in the other direction: they try to escape any analysis of rights at all. To these constitutionalists, rights are natural, self-evident and God-given; they are received truths, handed down from the Founders of the Republic like Moses from the Mount.

Typically, the Founders are treated as secular saints, with a wisdom more than human, and to question their revelations is to question sacred dogma. It is not difficult to imagine how such true believers would handle the question of rights when and if they could ever come to power.

Just as their interpretation of rights depends on a dogmatic, authoritarian source, so would their law-giver and law-defender be a dogmatic, authoritarian source. It could not be otherwise. (Try imagining so!)

The bottom line is that constitutionalism is too utopian, and simplistically utopian at that. As citizens, we cannot be asked to try a system that its adherents cannot even describe.

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Sunday, June 28, 2009

Steve Kangas FAQ on liberalism: Is the US a democracy?

Myth: The U.S. is not a democracy.

Fact: The U.S. is a representative democracy in every branch of government.

Summary

The U.S. is a democracy -- just not a direct one. Every branch of our government -- executive, legislative, judicial, monetary -- ultimately derives its power from majority rule or approval. By making our democracy indirect instead of direct, the Founders prevented unrestrained mob rule, allowing a more reasonable pace of majority rule, and greater room for compromise.



Argument

Conservatives continually point out that America is not a democracy, but a constitutional republic. This is a quibble over definitions, because a constitutional republic is a type of democracy. Democracy comes in two forms: direct and republican. In a direct democracy, the people vote directly on proposed laws, and government (to the extent that it exists) serves only to put their laws into action. By contrast, a republic is a representative democracy, where laws are passed not by the people, but their elected representatives. Adding the term "constitutional" to the word "republic" is frivolous, since all nations have constitutions.

Why, then, do conservatives insist on this distinction? There are two reasons, both of them trivial. One is to embarrass those who make casual use of the term "democracy." Another is that conservatives are so hostile to democracy that they seek to deny its very name.

But a democracy we are. No matter which branch of government you look into, you'll find the fingerprints of democracy everywhere:

Congress: the people vote on their Senators and Representatives, who then vote on their laws.

The White House: the people vote on a slate of electors, who then vote for the president.

Supreme Court: nine justices vote on the constitutionality of laws.

Supreme Court justices: an elected president nominates a Supreme Court justice, who must pass a vote of confidence from the people's elected Senators.

Constitutional amendments: the people's elected representatives vote on the amendments, which must pass by a supermajority of elected state legislatures.

Cabinet appointees: an elected president nominates cabinet officials, who must pass a vote of confidence from the people's elected Senators.

The Federal Reserve: a board of Federal Reserve governors votes on monetary policy.

The Federal Reserve Board: an elected president nominates members to the Federal Reserve Board, who must pass a vote of confidence from the people's elected Senators.

Notice that a spectrum of democracy exists within these examples. On the more direct end lies the House of Representatives, which elects legislators from relatively small districts every two years. On the more republican end lies the Senate, which elects legislators from much larger states every six years. The extreme in republicanism is the Supreme Court, where the people's representatives elect justices to lifetime tenure.

Also notice that there is no such thing as a 100 percent direct democracy, since voters would be overwhelmed with the requirements of voting on the nuts and bolts of every government operation. Inevitably, democracy requires some degree of delegated authority. Still, the Founders feared more direct forms of democracy, since they believed -- with historical justification -- that they increased the volitility of mob rule, reduced the chances of compromise, allowed more uninformed legislation to pass, and were usually short-lived. Thus, they insisted on a more republican form of government. However, they also knew the danger of going too far in the opposite direction. Too republican, and representatives become impervious to the will of the people. The challenge in designing a democracy is to find the right balance between direct democracy and republicanism.

Ultimately, all democracies -- including republics -- operate at the consent of the majority. By making our democracy more indirect than direct, the Founders did not stop majority rule; they merely slowed it down somewhat. We could fine tune our position on this spectrum either way, of course, but we would have to go miles in the direction of republicanism before we were no longer a democracy.
 
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