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Showing posts with label First Amendment. Show all posts
Showing posts with label First Amendment. Show all posts

Sunday, January 27, 2013

Why does the right wing keep harping about religion?



Why don't the wing nuts just read the US Constitution?

Armchair Patriots are getting all Constitutional on us. The FIRST Amendment, once again, reads:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

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Monday, June 25, 2012

RS Jaynes: GOP historical Kool-Aid revisonism


The First Amendment, of course, is called the Establishment clause, not the second.

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Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Alternet: Soldiers Punished for Refusing to Attend Christian Rock Show

Matthew Harwood, TruthOut.org
August 23, 2010


At least two soldiers allege they were punished for not attending an evangelical Christian concert in May say that the Army's equal opportunity program is fundamentally broken . The allegations have since led to an Army investigation.

Anonymous soldiers and Pvt. Anthony Smith, who is on active duty with the National Guard in Arizona, told Truthout they were among approximately 80 soldiers who were punished for choosing not to attend "The Commanding General's Spiritual Fitness Concert" headlined by BarlowGirl, an evangelical Christian rock group, at Fort Eustis on May 13.

After being punished by cleaning the barracks, Smith and another soldier that night organized approximately 20 of the punished soldiers to complain to the fort's Equal Opportunity (EO) office.
 
The first EO adviser they met with tried to persuade them that nothing was wrong, according to Smith. Both soldiers said EO advisers pressured them to not file a formal complaint. According to Smith, advisers he consulted with told him a formal complaint would create a paper trail as well as "a timeline." 

The adviser also told him that the complaint would become "a statistic." Smith believes this wasn't a lie. He said formal complaints are "100 percent useless."

At one point, the soldier asked for a non-Christian EO adviser on the assumption that an EO adviser of another faith or no faith would understand why the soldier felt violated by the events that night . . .

"On May 13 the [non-commissioned officers] at Ft Eustis issued us a directive (equivalent to a law which we must obey) that we march towards a religious destination," the soldier wrote. "In my mind that was an unlawful directive . . .

It's a recommendation that Mikey Weinstein, the founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), wholeheartedly agrees with. On Thursday, MRFF's senior researcher Chris Rodda exposed the alleged incident at Fort Eustis on Huffington Post after Weinstein received numerous complaints about the incident.

Smith said he turned to MRFF because no one else would listen to him. He said other soldiers with similar experiences shouldn't be afraid to reach out to MRFF "because they have the resources to help."

Monday, August 17, 2009

Free speech Republican style

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Monday, July 6, 2009

Steve Kangas FAQ: Did The Founders intended the U.S. to be a Christian republic?

Editor's Note:  In the last article Rightardia wrote on the separation of church and state, it was pointed that God, Christianity and Jesus are not mentioned in the Constitution or the Articles of Confederation. President John Adams also signed the Treaty of Tripoli that was ratified by the US Senate. It stated the US was not a Christian nation. There is also a legal doctrine on the separation of church and state that is based on more than 50 federal and Supreme Court cases. This article reflects the views of Steve Kangas on the Founders intents on religion.

Myth: The Founders intended the U.S. to be a Christian republic.

Fact: If the Founders had wanted a Christian republic, they would have made one.



Summary

If the Founders had intended this to be a Christian Republic, they would not have separated Church and State in the constitution. Besides, many of the founders were Deists or atheists, not Christians; it would have been impossible for them to intend a Christian Republic.



Argument

The First Amendment states:
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…"
Article VI, Section 3 of the constitution also states:
    "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States, and of the several States, shall be bound by oath or affirmation to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
By now virtually everyone knows the argument that making the United States a Christian republic would violate the First Amendment rights of Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, atheists, agnostics, etc. But fewer people realize that it would also violate the First Amendment rights of Christians as well. Which of the 2,500 Christian denominations would we choose as the Christian orthodoxy upon which to base the republic? Seventh-day Adventists and Catholics are complete opposites to each other, and, in fact, are sworn enemies. Thus, a Christian Republic would certainly involve a small minority forcing its views on the majority.

Be that as it may, did the Founders actually intend for Christianity to play a greater role in our society than it has? Prior to the constitution, 11 of 13 states had religious qualifications for public office. These were limited to Christians only, and sometimes even Protestants only. However, the Constitutional Convention voted down such qualifications, creating the separation of church and state that we find in the First Amendment today. If this is not proof of the Founders intentions, then what is?

One should remember that the Founders lived in the 18th century, just as the horrors of the Inquisition were winding down. Anyone who overly opposed the Roman Catholic Church was arrested by the Inquisition as a heretic. They were tortured until they confessed their guilt, then handed over to the state for execution. The state, in full partnership with the church, would then prove its loyalty by carrying out the execution. Those Founders who were Christians were Protestants, and had they lived in Europe they would have been persecuted by the Inquisition. It was this identification with "heretics" that compelled them to build "a wall of separation between Church and State."

This famous phrase was coined by Thomas Jefferson in his letter to the Danbury Baptists:
    "Believing that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." -- Thomas Jefferson to Danbury Baptists, 1802.
Some Christians have tried to argue that this wall is "one-way," that the state may not interfere with religion, but religion may interfere with the state. However, this is an impossibility, since by definition any control that a denomination achieves over the state will automatically become state infringement on the religious rights of others.

Besides, many of the Founders were hardly Christians. There were several Deists, most prominent among them Thomas Jefferson. Deism rejected formal or organized religion, including Christianity; it taught that people should depend on human reasoning, not revealed truths, to discern what is true in the world. Deism rejected the divinity of Jesus and ascribed his miracles and resurrection to "mysticisms, fancies and falsehoods" (Jefferson's words).

Another standout is Benjamin Franklin. The body of his work strongly suggests that he was an atheist. Like most atheist politicians since, Franklin was not so impolitic as to broadcast this fact. He sometimes evoked Providence or God in his speeches, ever mindful of his Christian audiences. But anyone familiar with Franklin's writings knows of his true philosophy towards religion.

Thus, the fact that not all the Founders were Christians, and that they actually removed a widespread Christian qualification for office in the U.S. constitution, proves that the Founders did not intend this to be a Christian republic.


Source: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-christianrepublic.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States


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